Separation of Church & State: Finally a Wall Worth Talking About

We’ve stepped in it this time, haven’t we?

We didn’t listen to the proper churchgoers of our youth who reminded us that one’s views on politics is no one else’s beeswax, and ne’er a discussion on the subject should be heard within the auspices of the church grounds.

Does a podcast count?

Here’s the deal, though. The simple fact of the matter is that politics is on just about everyone’s minds right now, particularly Americans, as we draw ever closer to November 8th and the decision our country will make regarding who will occupy the White House for the next four years. A lot of hope is being projected on these candidates; however, there seems to be just as much, if not more, fear emanating from this election, too. A lot of people are deeply concerned (to put it mildly).

And one group of people who have been slightly more on edge in this election than in years past are Christians. We struggle with the concept of voting for the lesser of two evils,  or voting for a extreme-long-shot third party candidate, or not voting at all, wondering through it all which choice is the one God wants us to make. At the same time, we’re even more troubled by what policies, laws and court decisions might be affected, depending on which candidate wins. Our anxiety has reached a point in which some have difficulty focusing on anything else, including the very faith they proclaim in our holy, timeless, and transcendent God.

On this episode of The DBC Podcast, I sat down with the original fun bunch from our first-ever episode – the beloved co-hosts Mark Paul (Student Pastor) and Steve Johns (Sunday School teacher extraordinaire) – to talk about the often quoted but little understood concept known as “the separation of Church and state.” We discuss where both the term and concept come from, what it implies, how it works today, and what Christians should understand about it, especially in light of this ongoing three-ring circus of a presidential election.

Now, fair warning, we don’t pull our punches that much. While none of us come out and say who you should vote for, we also don’t speak vaguely or cryptically about the people running in this election, or the hot-button issues associated with them. So, we hope you will listen with a commitment to patience and curiosity rather than indulge the knee-jerk temptation toward fear or anger that pricks you whenever we say something you don’t agree with. Chances are, you won’t see completely eye to eye with us, but one of the themes of this particular episode is compromise and a willingness to listen – to be both critical and gracious at the same time – so we hope you will hear us out.

If you would like to share your own thoughts, even if they are stern rebuttals of what we have said, please do so in the Comment section below. I will respond to every comment, and, if necessary, ask Mark and/or Steve to do the same. This podcast is committed to stirring both good thought and good conversation, albeit in an online context. So, join us in keeping this particular conversation going, won’t you?

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